Tuesday, November 30, 2010

I wonder if the Hall of Fame voters will penalize Omar Vizquel because he played in the steroid era



I just looked at the 2011 Hall of Fame ballot.

I think the same applies to Lenny Harris.

7 comments:

NMCLax24 said...

Well Lenny Harris definitely looks roided up but I'm not sure why they'd penalize Visquel, offense wasn't ever his forte. He was an ok hitter but nothing that would indicate he may have been part of the roid trend. If anything they should reward him for not following the trend.

Charles @ Hoopography said...

If Bill Mazeroski is in at 2nd, Vizquel should be in at SS. Actually, 273 BA% really isn't horrid in 22 seasons considering the defense he played.

Contrary Guy said...

I think Mazeroski might be a special case and got in for two reasons:

1. The 1960 World Series game winning home run.
2. Many believe him to be the best defensive second baseman in history.

I don't think that Vizquel has anything similar on his resume.

You are also going to get tons of voters who say that Vizquel does not "feel" like a Hall of Famer. Ironically, probably some of the same who voted for Jim Rice because he was allegedly such a "feared" hitter.

Field of Cards said...

Well, they have been penalizing Alan Trammell for playing right before the Steroid Era, so anything is possible. It's odd that the voters dismiss the validity of Steroid Era stats yet allow those very stats to influence how they view others who didn't even play in the roid era. The HOF voters are getting smarter, but they are still quite stupid.

Contrary Guy said...

My post on Vizquel and Harris was "tongue in cheek" but I do agree that Trammell gets shafted because he played right before the steroid era and his stats look worse by comparison. On the other hand, Ripken, Jeter and Garciaparra are the three shortstops who's numbers started to make Trammell's look pedestrian and there have been no steroid suspicions around Ripken and Jeter anyway.

Larkin will be interesting. If he gets in (though I think it would be take many years of voting), how is Trammell out?

Field of Cards said...

:) You're always tongue and cheek but it always raises bigger questions! That's why I like your blog.

True about Nomar and Jeter (Ripken to a lesser extent) hurting Trammell as well. Throw that in with the Roid Era arriving and it was a combination of the worst possibilities for a guy like Trammell.

An even sadder fate: Lou Whitaker. Nearly identical numbers to Trammell over his career.

Contrary Guy said...

No doubt on Lou.

He was doomed due to his low profile, prickly personality (that frankly only people in Detroit saw due to his low profile nationally) and playing in a "small" market. (Well not really "small" but one nobody cared about)

Didn't even get the 5% necessary to stay on the ballot more than one year.